IS THIS THE FABS?, IF SO, WHERE?, WHEN?, DISCUSS:

23 Responses to “IS THIS THE FABS?, IF SO, WHERE?, WHEN?, DISCUSS:”

  1. Usagi says:

    Looks like it to me, I see John. Don’t know where and when though.

  2. Ken Wood says:

    Looks like them. John with cap, organ on stage, makes me think 1965.
    No uniform suits plus facing a closed curtain (or just a wall?) says rehearsal.

  3. Ken Wood says:

    Looking again, yes that looks like a wall – and a curtain seems to be on the other side, behind them. Why would they have their gear set up the wrong way? Maybe to emit less sound in the direction of the actual stage – so could this be a rehearsal while somebody else is already on stage (in front of the closed curtains – nah, does not make sense either).

  4. Ken Wood says:

    This page selling Robert Whitaker photos has it as Donmar 1965:
    http://www.iq.nl/nl/collectie/onze_collectie/robert_whitaker

  5. henry_the_horse says:

    Early December 1965, Donmar Warehouse, London. Photograph by Robert Whitaker. As already mentioned by Ken Wood.

  6. Ken Wood says:

    There are more – saying rehearsal for Christmas Show, Donmar Hall London, ca. 1964.
    http://www.sfae.com/index.php?pg=303755
    It is interesting to note that Beatles never played this Donmar Hall (at least from what I can gather from this concert list:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_Beatles%27_live_performances#1965
    The actual Chistmas-shows took place in Finsbury Park Astoria Cinema (for the 63-64 run) and Odeon Cinema (for the 64-65 run).
    And indeed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donmar_Warehouse
    At that time it was a “a private rehearsal studio”.
    So my best guess would be some time prior the first Christmas show of that season, so shortly before December 24, 1964.

  7. Ken Wood says:

    BTW I don`t think this was “early” December as Henry believes, because Ringo was in hospital for December 2-16 (source: http://www.dmbeatles.com/history.php?year=1964 ).
    So I guess we can narrow this down to Dec. 17 – Dec. 24.

  8. nika says:

    It can’t be December 64- John wasn’t wearing hats or playing the organ back then. looks more like mid 65.

  9. Darren says:

    Yes it’s definitely The Beatles. Many tumblrs have posted pics from this Help session with John wearing the hat, playing the organ and also holding a piece of paper with lyrics at the microphone. Some of those pictures I actually got from this amazing Beatlephotoblog site!!!

  10. Kwai Chang says:

    Wherever it is…
    tell Ringo I said “hello”.
    He’s 35 feet from the from the front row.
    I hope the stage wasn’t elevated…
    you’d never see him.

  11. henry_the_horse says:

    This is the rehearsal for the Autumn 1965 U.K. tour.
    ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Beatles_concerts#1965 )

    This is another photograph by Robert Whitaker of the same trio of guitars rehearsing their 3-part vocal harmonies.
    https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/Beatles%2064.jpg

    As you can see Harrison is playing his ES-345 which he played during the last U.K. tour in 1965. Lennon is playing the blackface strat. The same guitars and clothes can be seen on the bird eye photograph that Tammy posted.

    Donmar Warehouse was a rehearsal hall for theatre productions. The Beatles had already used this hall for rehearsals in 1963.

  12. Pete F. says:

    Amazing the stuff you can find out on this blog!
    Thanks all!

  13. Ken Wood says:

    Alright, so the place might be correct but the time is not. Thanks for taking a closer look!

  14. GLCompany says:

    I’d say July 30 – 1965. Rehearsals for the USA Tour

  15. henry_the_horse says:

    Would they be wearing those winter clothes in July? Lennon and Harrison are wearing turtle neck sweaters, Harrison a corduroy jacket, Lennon a warm cloth cap.

    Harrison played the ES-345 exclusively during the December 1965 U.K. tour. The blackface headstock Stratocaster appears in the same tour, in Sheffield City Hall backstage on the 8th December 1965, together with the ES-345.

    http://i.imgur.com/VyDUf.jpg

    McCartney used the Tone Bender Mk I fuzz in Rubber Soul sessions and on this rehearsal at Donmar in December 1965.

    http://beatlephotoblog.com/photos/2012/08/149.jpg

    What about the L.P. on top of the Continental organ? It is B. B. King’s Live at the Regal, released in November 1965.

    http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201209/16/59/e0045459_7404271.jpg

    http://www.saxophone.it/vinile/pop_K/original/King%20B.B.%20-%20Live%20At%20The%20Regal.jpg

    Lennon (or Mal Evans) changed the Python strap of the 1964 325 guitar to the blackface headstock Stratocaster in December 1965 for the U.K. tour. The Python strap was with the 325 in the summer 1965 U.S. tour:
    http://beatlephotoblog.com/photos/2013/08/1.JPG14.jpg

    and compared to this photograph of the Stratocaster at the Donmar warehouse in 1965.
    http://images.sfae.com/product_images/preview/3766.jpg

    The 6119 Tennessean strap went then to the 1964 325 guitar, as it can be seen in these photographs

    https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/Donmar%206415_.jpg

    8th December 1965, Sheffield City Hall:
    http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201207/09/59/e0045459_8303281.jpg

    This can also be checked in the backstage photograph of Sheffield City Hall on the 8th December:
    http://i.imgur.com/VyDUf.jpg

  16. Guido says:

    Amazing research, hth. Case closed, I’d say.

  17. Kwai Chang says:

    @Guido…
    I can imagine what it must be like to converse with henry…it’s better known as ‘sit and listen’. He’s got too much to offer…and, even advanced-level fans should want to ‘capitalize’ on the opportunity that he affords us here. His knowledge is consistently razor sharp…and, the depths of it have only been hinted at. He probably has more to offer a conversation than there will ever be time for…but, he has it if anyone needs it. He is always in focus, on topic, without ego, beyond generous, extremely polite, perfectly concise and ALWAYS happy to help. That’s just the beginning.
    All visitors of this blog are already cognizant of henry’s presence. It is a huge privilege to have such a formidable source of Beatle knowledge in our midst. I guarantee that henry knows things about the Beatles that will never be written about. He knows more than all that has been written so far. So, rejoice, everyone!!! Even if all your questions are answered…this blog makes it possible to know EVERYTHING! There’s a horse, a car, a dutchess of oven, beautiful photos, a teddy bear, a train set, and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots (of questions)…
    “No further questions, Your Honor”
    (thanks, henry)
    Sincerely,KC

  18. Keith Bratley says:

    Even looking at their hair and clothes you can date this to the late 1965 UK tour.
    If only we had some audio from this tour.

  19. Tammy says:

    It’s just such a weird photo taken from such a height, the only photos like this i can recall are from Let it be where some were taken from the rafters.

  20. Tammy says:

    Kwai, that’s Dutchess with a capital ‘D’ thank you :-)

  21. Tammy says:

    Oh Mr Horse!!!, all these photos posted, and i didn’t even realize all the technical stuff it showed, i never noticed the fuzz bas thingy at Pauls feet.

  22. Kwai Chang says:

    @Tammy…
    no more ‘d’s on Dutchess.
    (No flies on frank)…’perdon a me’

    I can’t believe we don’t see the Rickenbacker 4001-S. Paul had it since August 1965. Maybe he hadn’t really taken to it, yet. Or, maybe it IS there. He took it to Japan in June 1966. It was in the hotel, anyway. I don’t know if it traveled to Budokan.

  23. GLCompany says:

    Again amazing research Henry_ more respect!

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