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sometimes being a Beatle brings ugliness…
here’s an example:
Heinz the Nazi War Criminal
(seen here running the country while Ford does the pratfall)
This guy is wanted for war crimes in most of the world…
“have you seen the bigger piggies?”
Right. Anyway, the first thing that came to my mind was “Henry Kissinger, how I’m missing yer…” sung by Monty Python Eric Idle!
Well now we know George had an awkward period, too. Oy that awful hair. And that sweater! He must have borrowed that from Paulie.
Heeeey, Louise! I thought he looked quite cute!
@Kwai – Not all war criminals are Nazis, especially not a Jewish one. Some of them come in the American variety, like Heinz and Dicky. Wonder how many days of chanting George did to clean his karma…. Hope he brought some sage!
of course not all War Criminals are Nazi…
But THIS one is…the Jewish Part is Camouflage
I don’t want to debate…
(just quote the songs)
…on that note…
WERE the beatles political?
In what way?
they never played Sun City did they?
Tavistock is everywhere…
whether you believe it or not
I remember George talking about this picture. Kissenger asked to meet George and the next thing you know a photographer popped out.. George was annoyed and they didn’t part on good terms.
Yes, quite political. Except they were muzzled in the early days by Brian. In Jacksonville in the fall of 1964 they insisted on intergrated seating or they wouldn’t perform. John and George both commented on Vietnam as early as 1965. Very political and quite correct in their views. That’s why I love them so….(one of many reasons) And no, they never played Sun City. But they did play Beirut, Lebannon. Can you imagine?
@ C3 BlueNote:
In terms of the personal freedoms & aspirations advocated in the music, of course.
But I don’t think they were as political throughout most of the Beatle years as some people would like to believe.
When they travelled to Greece in ’67 John was asked why he wanted to “drop out” in a country that had recently been overthrown in a fascist coup (good pal Magic Alex had relatives involved in that coup) & he replied that he basically couldn’t care less.
Sure, they never played Sun City, but Apple still had a record division in Apartheid-era South Africa; a version of “Those Were The Days” was even released in Afrikaans. Paul never really expressed any controversial political points until his awkward post-Beatles single “Give Ireland Back To The Irish”.
I’m not suggesting that The Beatles were a bunch of right-wingers; merely that they were on the whole fairly apolitical. John later spoke about how he went all-out with the War Is Over campaign, etc, after realising that he’d spent most of the 60s in a non-political haze of fame & acid.
Talk about making up for it, though. All those people at the Vietnam Moratorium in 1969 singing Give Peace A Chance- amazing! As he said at the John Sinclair benefit, “apathy isn’t it” (although he did make a point of telling an interviewer in 1980 that he’d never voted in his life!).
A meeting of good and evil…
“Paul never really expressed any controversial political points until his awkward post-Beatles single “Give Ireland Back To The Irish”
That’s not true. Paul financed an underground London newspaper, the International Times. It was filled with leftwing political commentary.
In 1967, Paul was the one who paid for a full-page ad in the London Times that advocated the legalization of marijuana. It was signed by a bunch of famous people, including all the Beatles and Brian Epstein.
And even early on, a quick Google search turned up plenty of evidence of controversial social and political statement from McCartney (and not just from John and George). In an interview in Boston Mass, September 12th, 1964, a reporter asked this question: “Would you advocate sending all the young boys your age to Vietnam?” To which Paul replied: “No… (pause) Not unless they wanted to, you know.”
And an interview in May 1968 with John and Paul:
Q: “The United States has been plagued by the war in Vietnam, and the world has been concerned about it. What are your views about the war?”
JOHN: “It’s another piece of insanity. It’s all part of the same insane scene that’s going on. There’s nothing else for it… no reason, just insanity.”
PAUL: “You know, whoever’s right and whoever’s wrong, it’s still… the thing that’s going on there isn’t a good thing.”
When Paul was asked about political issues, he commented — just like the others. And he also talked about how irritating it was that you could speak freely in the UK about controversial issues and those quotes would get you into trouble in America — like talking about atheism, Vietnam, and segregation. All of them discussed being atheists as early as 1964.
I don’t know how much Brian reined in their opinion, but when they were asked legitimate questions, they answered.
Good points Louise, I’d forgotten about the IT/London Times stuff…
I was always proud of Paul for getting the real last word when John apologised for the Jesus remark.
Paul said something like “we believe in free speech and we THOUGHT everybody here did too!”
Mark, Louise, C3 BlueNote…thanks. Lot’s that I never knew or forgot.
Didn’t John write Come Together as a campaign jingle for Leary?
don’t you know that you can count me out…in
I’m confident that they were above politics…
but stuck in a political world
Thanks Kwai. RE- Come Together:
John originally wrote the early version of it for Leary; I think it was to go “Come together, and join the party…” and so on (John sings this little bit when talking about it in the Dec 1970 Rolling Stone interview).
When he used it as the basis for Come Together instead & failed to deliver the jingle version I believe Leary sued him! (or at least tried to…)
*actually, I just realised I’m probably confusing O Leary suing Lennon with the whole Chuck Berry/Morris Leavey lawsuit. Not having a good night for Beatles factoids tonight. Off to bed I think!
** Leary, Not O’ Leary! DOH!
You’re makin’ me jealous
(are you sure it’s not O’bleary?)
Don’t forget Ringo and Zak played on “Ain’t Gonna Play (Sun City)” as well.
I loved his curly do! Wanted to run my hands through it…always wanted to see him in perm rods, LOL! Now THAT would be a picture!
They were not as apolitical as you make them to be. George advocated the Natural Law Party, played a benefit for them! Also spoke a lot about the Greens. Paul and John both made statements about No. Ireland in the 1970s, John participated in a number of protests on both sides of the Atlantic, hung out with Abbie Hoffman, did the John Sinclair benefit protesting laws against criminalization of marijuana possession. Ringo took part in the anti Apartied movement. Paul takes a stand for animal rights. All of those are political statements!
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